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FWIW here are my FP stats etc….
Not using the bot I started on 19th May 2010 with £5 stakes.
45 days of placing bets (no losing days) and slowly ratcheting up my bets are now nearly £13.
Yes I think I’ve got lucky with missing a losing day due to the j-o-b.
Will it continue? Who knows? Probability is such a weird thing and there is bound to be correction soon (ssshhhh!!)
Cheers
MikeL
Has anyone heard of Betting Maximizer ? It’s a horse racing betting system. I think it’s a lay system for both flat and jumping races in the UK. It looked interesting but would like to know if anyone has experience with it, thanks !
STAY WELL AWAY FROM BETTING MAXIMIZER ITS THE SAME PEOPLE SELLING MORE RUBBISH WEEK AFTER WEEK
Hi Comm.,
Services/Systems on trial.
is it possible to access any info., regarding progress of the trial. I am particularly interested in the performance of DREAM LAYS.
Thankyou.
Hi Comm.,
would appreciate a response to my query of 29th inst. ref. Services/Systems on trial.
Hi Donnie, Dream Lays isnt due to start until tomorrow, other than that i am confused by your question.
Hello,
Thanks guys for a great review of All-By-The-Book, I’m making good money with this system. Testing GKM2 with good results, but in my opinion to make profit it takes too much time and we need big bankroll. Im using The Badger’s service and bettingprotrades service. They are good.
I want to add something to my portfolio. I’m sure you heard about PlusLineSport, what’s your opinion about this service? I’m looking for a service with big amount of games every day and yield around 10%.
May be you can suggest me something?
Thanks for the reply Ian,
Funny thing is that Betting Maximizer has been working well, 8 successful lays and only 1 loser, but it’s early days !
I wonder if anyone has had this in the post a guaranteed to win system called Automatic Betfair Profit System on a cd rom which is asking for £147 then a futher £190 will be required to start also have only 27 copies left as I have a feeling that this is a scam if so can you check this out some time also warn others if its a scam
Hi Hammy
BM is almost certainly a ploy to ‘hoover’ your hard earned.
The only way a system can prove it has an edge is stats, stats, and more stats. It will take many hundreds, possible thousands of bets for the probability thing to be played out.
All the best
MikeL
TUESDAY 3rd AUGUST
Hi All,
Selection: POWERFUL PIERRE 17.00 CATTERICK
Disqualified as too big odds to lay (over BF7.00)
RESULT for info only: 3rd
Cheers,
Bernard
This rant, whether it gets posted or not, at least its off my chest. I am not trying to instigate a reaction from anyone. So I understand if it doesn’t get posted or comments are not allowed to be posted in response to it.
When Betfair Pirate was having a bad run I saw nobody saying it could do the opposite and profit next week, who is to say that will or won’t happen? I read a comment on here today in the recent BP thread and I think these people with the comments they make should not be betting if they don’t understand the risk and also that losing is a massive part of winning.
Next week the exact opposite of what happened this week could very well happen. That’s because the exact opposite of what happened last month has happened this week. So I believe,,, the product was released with results detailing exactly when punters would fall over. They even went to the trouble of printing a graph and showing at which dips in the graph punters would give up. Now I can understand why BST admin did not allow comments that were being posted on that thread because they were most probably comments posted by very short sighted punters that wanted to harm the program with their undisciplined approach and ruin it for others. Having spoken to James via email I found out that readers were unhappy that James was promoting this without a full 56 – 84 day trial which is the standard on BST. James quite plainly answered, and told me about the crap being discussed on other blogs about him and BST. He also told me he is thinking of hanging up his boots because of all this and this made me angry… I hope he or admin allows me to post his comments…
“Hi Mike,
I am a marketer. I market betting systems. Every email I send out with my affiliate link I tell people in that email that my affiliate link is present. The difference between me and the Kevin Schmidts of this world are, I make sure I have months and months of results tested first. I make sure there is a long trial period of at least two months after my initial testing is over. Then I promote if things look good. I only want to give quality products to my list. Why would I want to sell crap. Is this the way to run a business? I own the BST Blog, but myself and BST are separate entities. Just because I promote something doesn’t mean it gets the BST seal of approval. The guys that run the blog will test things that I promote, just like any other product that gets tested. There are 18 reviewers on the BST blog and I am sure if I was making these people post lies and good things about products because I wanted the commissions, all of them would leave. We have volunteers here working the cause because they see the vision and they know it is independent. Any one of them could speak out at anytime if I was acting irresponsibly with reviews. I am seriously thinking about selling BST and moving on, because of the antagonistic behaviour of some blog users.”
Like I say I hope James or the Admin on here allows this post because I feel it should be shown. I am a massive fan of this blog, I always have been it has saved me so much money I feel I should stick up for it. I also think others who are like me should start sticking up for the BST blog and challenging the people that are wrong about this place. I do not want to see James sell up. It wont be the same place here…
Anyway back to BP, the program was advertised as a long term investment. So I am interested only in the long term approach. I have been using this since the start of the free trials and I am in good profits now having dipped below recently because of the bad July period.
Maybe people should show some faith in products that James brings to the table. Ok he is human I expect he could get it wrong at some stage. James for one has saved me over a grand this year alone with the scam warnings. Betting System Truths has also contributed to that. I think people that like to shout their mouths off need to take a step back and understand what’s happening. Do these people deserve a site like BST. NO!
Reading Libel unjustified stuff about BST and James online recently has made me think what a disgraceful bunch of people we have in our world. Some even say they will boycott the blog yet they seem to be still hanging around, unless it is just coincidence they use the same usernames elsewhere to put the site down. This truly is the best blog on the net! Lets club together and keep it this way. I have also posted this comment on the welcome page as to not interfere with the BPirate comment section.
Please admin let this post be posted, I am not attacking any individual on the blog so I am sure this is not breaking the terms of use policy on the site.
Cheers Mike Wilson
Hi has anyone tried to buy ONE A DAY WONDER? this week 2/8/2010 I have paid money via click bank for the product and have recieved nothing in return, has anyone else had this problem?
I received a free trial offer of Saturday Lays from a guy called Kris in Lancashire. Results sound too good to be true. Towards the end of the comprehensive results the stakes were extremely high due to percentage of bank staking. I emailed Kris asking if it would be possible to get sums as high as £2081 matched on Betfair. So far no reply. Has anybody else come across Saturday Lays. Would appreciate some input on this please.
HEAR HEAR MIKE!! Yes, most of us know the value of this site, and as the saying goes, it’s usually just a few bad apples that spoil it for the rest of us. I hear what you are saying, and agree whole-heartedly 100% with all you have said. Thank you for your detailed post. Long Live BST!!
Hi Stuart, maybe the ‘One Day Wonder’ has already lived up to its’ name?? Just a couple of quick quotes from the sales-page: ‘I will first monitor customer service and price of odds……..’. It would appear there is not much monitoring going on…….., and this doozy: ‘the £490,000 the system extracts from the bookies each year…….’ and all they want is 7.95???? Seriously…….enough said, I’m sure.
Colin, results are easy to put on paper, as you can paper trade to infinity, as long as you have enough ink in the pen…….in theory it might just work, however as you have not had a reply about getting $2081 matched (sorry, no GBP key), that tells me that the author himself does not lay to that liability, which of course is a bit of a worry in itself — but imagine then what would happen if he sold just a couple of hundred of these systems…..no chance of getting anywhere near that matched!! Almost all system sellers make their money by selling systems, not by following them.
Rgds,
Kris
Hi Bloggers,
FULL CIRCLE SYSTEM.
just read some terrible comments following review on this system, which would certainly cause concern to any intending purchaser,
I would like to see this site tackle the more renound systems as I am sure alot of the followers of this site would too.
My initial suggestions are; The Brimardon System, Legacy and Saver system and Martin Bishop tipping service to name a few from the top of my head
Anyothers people, seriously lets get these usual suspects dealth with before moving onto others.
Same as Alan! It would be really great with reviews of some of theese bigger, more expensive, serious-looking systems!
Hi Danny,
No, I won’t be running 2 sets of results as I haven’t ‘tweaked’ the system, it’s just a different interpretation of a couple of grey areas. Not everyone using the system will get the same results because they’ll make their selections at different times. The author of the system doesn’t study the form until 1 hour before the race, so he will have different results to someone who studies the form the night before. As I said, I’ll continue to study the form the night before and use the Betfair early prices.
The author stated that the reason he recommends using the Racing Post forecast odds (which isn’t made clear in the eBook) is because “they are the only odds available at the time.” Obviously this isn’t correct as the Betfair odds are available.
Also, the author has said: Quote: “Your recent successes are merited and the only misunderstanding is the
forecast bet and actual bet & if Hawaana had been on the actual day then it would have qualified for selction & then have been good to go, but if it had been the night before then it wouldn’t have even reached the first six in the betting.”
The implication of that statement is that my interpretation of the system’s grey areas brings the actual results closer to what would be achieved if I was studying the form closer to race time.
I’m not trying to mislead anyone or to ‘tweak’ the system. I started the trial with an interpretation of the system that seemed reasonable to me as there are several ambiguities in the eBook. I’ve tried to make clear to everyone what the ambiguities are, what my interpretation of them is and what the author has said about them. I believe that, as long as I’m clear about those points and I’m consistent with the selection process, there’s no need to run different sets of results. If I were to start doing that, then I may have somebody ask why I don’t runa set of results for the system as it used by the author )i.e. studying form close to race time) and that’s not practical.
The author has accepted that there is more than one way to use his system and the only point where he disagrees with my interpretation is in my use of Betfair prices rather than Racing Post forecast odds. But, as has been shown, Betfair early prices are a more accurate indicator of the actual odds than the Racing Post forecast and, so far, have proved more successful.
Sorry for being such a long post, but I need to make it clear to everyone what I’m doing and why and that everyone will get different results depending upon how they use the system.
Do you have a comment for ”Lay Maesto” I am thinking of buying it as there are positive feedback about it on line . Your comments please
Hello!
Do someone have any experience about secret betting club and how it´s working? is it good or is it only bull****?
Regards
Tony
Brimardon is a scam I got caught up in around 5 years ago. They swiped my savings and a big lesson learnt. Stay away from Brimardon at all costs. The software does not work long-term and they only ever promote their big winners but, what about the hundreds of losing bets? Give this expensive con a very wide birth. I am not the only person who has been burnt by Brimardon. I would like anyone else who has had running’s with Brimardon to step forward. I also heard they are or have been under the watchful eye of authorities recently.
Review requests…
Ok so the way the reviewing schedule gets sorted is not that simple. We get requests all the time for this and that to be reviewed. The blog makes around £700 a month from commissions on average. Out of this amount it pays for server costs, design upgrades to improve the user experience, the newsletter gets written by an outsourced writer each month at a cost of £225 (eBook newsletter). We also have to pay for memberships of around half of the stuff we review and also the one time eBook purchases where the authors are not willing to play ball when we want to review stuff.
A brand new site design is about to be unleashed at a cost of £2500. So although people might look at this site as a money machine. I actually have to keep feeding it to continue, but this is my passion to help stranded punters so more of a hobby and I am always balancing the books if I can.
So when we get review requests a lot of things have to be considered, price per month or one time payment for an eBook. Do I have enough experienced reviewers to conduct the review fairly? A lot of trust goes into my reviewers here, you can imagine anyone of them could be bunged by system authors to tell an untrue review. So I trust my reviewers completely. It is not an easy task to find dedicated voluntary reviewers that have the same passion as me, to stop the frauds… Yet the site Is attracting the best reviewers in this field. This is why BST has shot to number 1 in the betting system review industry. Another thing we have to consider is how many requests we get for certain reviews. At the end of each month I look at the requests in my excel sheet and I then usually start assigning new reviews to our volunteers and cover the ones that are wanted the most by our readers. So you can see this whole process is carefully planned. We don’t side step products. There are as you can see many factors that go into bringing a review. So many people get turned down each week, that’s the way it has to be. I am sure one day we will have 30+ volunteer reviewers that can be trusted with each one doing 2 or 3 reviews we can start to cover a lot of reviews… until then we will progressively grow uninterrupted.
Those other products you mention have been added to the review requests sheet.
Cheers
The commissioner.
Hi Comm.,
I think you can see from the numerous complimentary blogs, that we all appreciate the excellence and VALUE TO US of the efforts which go in to provide that service. I personally would have no difficulty contributing say a £5 monthly towards the costs. I use that figure in the belief that the site has a substantial number of followers. and that such a small amount from many would be acceptable to everyone.
Hi Donniemac, I have thought about charging a membership for this site, but from the outset i really did not want to go down that route. I was going to charge a £9.95 per month for the newsletter or £2.50 per week to cover the outsourcing cost of £225 each month but, at the moment I think I want to keep it free. At the end of the day as the site is growing so is the income we make here. And all money is thrown back into the cause every month. If a time comes where Its costing me to much to run I will probably either let someone else with my passion take over or start charging members say 25 pence per month. We have 5700 members that come to this blog regularly we get almost 3000 unique visitors a day. Im sure we could turn 1000 of the members into 25-50 pence a month to keep the site churning over organically. At the moment the site is managing ok. I won’t do what other sites do and charge a monthly amount. Even though I have nothing against those sites its not my desire to make money from giving this info out.
Ok Comm.,
power to your elbow, and thanks for everything you and all who assist you do for our benefit.
I paid £99 to attend Brimardon Harrogate offices for a demo in 2003. The fee would be credited back if you went on to buy into their system. It was tempting at the time but I decided against it as I thought there was something amiss. I just didn’t feel confident in their presentation and they failed to answer some questions. I have watched them evolve to where they are now in a marketing sense and the changes to their operation.
On the plus side I can say they did genuinely give out a 3 day free trial a couple of years ago and I did get MON NOME the G/national winner at 100/1 on that trial. Needless to say, I backed it just a £1 each way.
I had and have continued to read on other blogs disturbing comments about Brimardon that put me off. I did telephone Harrogate office in January this year and quizzed them on results and how they achieved the claimed profits on their website posing as a new enquirer to see if their claims had changed: Note the following replies from them
Strike rate on phone bets? 33%
Average odds? 5/1
Number of advices usually given on a day? 2
is it a points based bet system? yes 1 to 10
what value per point is the advertised profit based on? £100
do the bets achieve a level stakes profit? yes
How much to join? special offer £995 3 months on the phone.
If you wanted software and phone it was very and prohibitively expensive. Also, when you consider a point is £100 your going to be placing a lot of bets at hundreds up to £1,000 a bet for a 10 pointer. This puts the profit shown by them in a different light. It looks good and would be if it were achieved at £100 level stakes. They had no answer as to profit figures at level stakes of £50. (I asked).
I agree with the Commissioner….avoid like the plague
On to Martin Bishop: I took the free trial and that went okay (last year) Joined and they did okay for a couple of months.
You pay your fee and then get a daily email that will contain usually 4 advices. Sometimes a platinum bet included. Rare to get 5 advices but has happened. They advise the number of points to stake on each and whether as a win bet or each way bet. Generally the average points played each day is 13. Sometimes less and rarely more.
You get days when all 4 lose. Days when 1 wins at evens with 2 points on it and so on. Yes you will get days when you have a 5/1 win with 3 points on and sometimes better wins at 10/1 with a couple of points each way. What you will find is that you need those wins to fund the losses and you can as easily end up 40 points down on the month as be in profit. Overall, I think it is a service best avoided.
To trial Brimardon would cost a fortune and I will lay odds they will never let a reviewer in.
To review Bishop is feasible on cost but the results vary so much month to month you would need to have a rolling review. You could only ever give a snapshot on a review as it is a tips service claiming to be based on in effect “inside information” from the owners contacts and not on a system, method or strategy. Not worth reviewing in my opinion. If anyone wants the knowledge that bad then sign on for the free trial and go on from there but cautiously and keep stakes really low per point.
Cheers,
Bernard
Received an Email this morning from Martin Bishop Racing offering a free three day trial to his service.I looked on the website to see his fees and they seem quite high @ £49 per week and £149 per month etc and these are reduced prices.I have taken the trial even though I do not think 3 days is a fair trial for any service.I just wondered if anybody has heard of this guy or knows anything about this service.
Good luck to all.
stuart fish,
I purchased One-A-Day-Wonder, a backing system.
When you paid you were sent to a download site or you were emailed with the link to download site. Beware of several upsells, just keep clicking on the main product that you want. If you cannot get to the download site you better email their support … support[@]oneadaywonder.com
Hope this helps !
Very well said mike, i totally agree with your comments!!
I’ve been trying to resist buying any system that I haven’t seen a good, independent review for, so I ‘ve not bought a lot of late. One I did buy was Lay the Ratings which gained a recommendation in April. I’ve just re-read the end report and it states that the author wanted to continue proofing. I wonder if he is still doing so and whether the Commissioner , or anyone else has kept track. I gave up with it when it turned from a laying system into quite a profitable winner finding system horses going down the ratings until they hit a winning mark. Maybe I gave up too soon, tho’ I did see a website which showed it had lost for three months consecutively. Did anyone out there buy it and find it profitable?
jachi