Betting Supremacy Review Scam?
Failed Due Dilligence
When I first opened up the site I was stunned to see what looked like a REAL and under hyped video pitch. Very cleverly worded and done to pull on your heart strings.
My Due Diligence started here…
This guy springs out of nowhere, never heard of him before, appears to have no Google history and plants one right on your kisser..
As I have mentioned with the majority of System/Service reviews there is a process that I follow in order to score in the diligence test. I give a score for each of the 12 points below. score out of a minimum of and a maximum of 10 points for each test…
Most often than not I end up with a score lower than 40/120. If your interested in this way of judging a system or service before you buy it, there is 8 rules that any normal buyer on the street can way up and I will be releasing a FREE e-book and video training course detailing how you can make that all important decision before parting with your cash. (More on that in MARCH)
I won’t go into detail with the scoring system now but I have added the mark next to the diligence check mark…
1) Who is check – 0/10
2) Author authenticity – 1/10
3) Sales Pitch – 6/10
4a) Proof - 1/5
4b) Downloadable Results History 0/5
5) Testimonials – Believability? 1/10
6) Who is promoting it? (Any Trusted names?) 1/10
7) Was I contacted about promoting it? 0/10
8.) Cost 3/10
9) Money back guarantee? 8/10
At this point a score of 70+ would be needed for me to even purchase the e-book but as this is my review site I have to invest to give you the full picture…Because I invested in the e-book I am now able to complete part 2 of my diligence test which is points 10,11 and 12.
10) Up sells – 1/10
11) Is the system fully reversible through Adrian Massey? 1/10
12) How in-depth is the manual? 2/10
Total – 25/120
I want to explain a little about each point and how I came to my conclusion.
1)
www.whois.net, When was the name registered?
Is there a postal address and telephone number?
Is the owner of the domain the same name used by the supposed Author?
Name Server: my.privatedns.com
Name Server: your.privatedns.com
Registrant ID: Unknown
Registrant Name: Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Registrant Organization: Unknown
Registrant Street1: Unknown
Registrant Street2: Unknown
Registrant Street3: Unknown
Registrant City: Unknown
Registrant State/Province: Unknown
Registrant Postal Code: Unknown
Registrant Country: Unknown
Registrant Phone: Unknown
Registrant Fax: Unknown
Registrant Email: Unknown
What have they got to hide?
2)
Have I heard of this Author before, Spend 10 minutes on Google, and yahoo search engines. Type in his name using keywords like “scam” “betting system”, “marketer” my scoring is then based on the results of this 10 minutes. No info at all is just as bad as plenty of info, keep that in mind…
3)
Is the sales pitch over hyped? I usually look for American terms used in the sales pitch, massive claims made, you know the usual dross? Leave your JOB tomorrow, buy a Ferrari next week… The list could go on…
4a)
Well 4a and 4b are more or less the same thing but I like to score for both, 4a is basically proof? A video showing Betfair accounts with the statements and also the last how ever many years they are claiming results slowly scrolled through showing race names and types and of course the profit level. Screenshots are useless.. I have caught many wannabe marketers out with screenshot being tampered with.
You only have to go to this website here to check how easy it is for these guys to do it: http://www.juicestorm.com/betfairgen/
4b)
Well Do they offer results to be downloaded? IF they do how extensive are they? Betting Supremacy ZERO results…
5)
Testimonials and believability. Look at the testimonials. In my experience 50% of testimonials do not have perfect grammar and the picture supplied with the testimonial is a big giveaway. Betting Supremacy just take a look at the picture of the bettors they look like professional actors, something taken for a magazine shoot!
6)
Ok so who is promoting it, Like many of you my inbox gets rammed with around 5 – 15 emails every time one of these launches happens. I am not going to put a list up of the usual suspects but in given time you should have a reasonable list of Cowboys.
Also with this you should have a list of the decent marketers. Ones you can trust, These people usually care about your well being. I know these people and can talk with them on a phone or in a pub at any given time or place…
7)
Now this rule is designed for me only it helps because I am fairly well known in the online betting system industry, lets face it if you haven’t heard of James Fitzmaurice the 26 stone beast from Betting System Truths then you will get too know me very quickly especially if you are the author of dodgy crap being sold online…
Have I been contacted to promote the product, If Yes I can do some digging with the Author myself, do I get continued response from them? Or do conversations break down quickly for some strange reason? OR No I haven’t been contacted well that makes me very upset 
Surely they have heard about me by now Why are you giving me such a wide birth? Don’t tread on my toes. Surely getting an approval from my site which gets nigh on 1500 unique visits a day! can influence your sales?
8.)
COST, Does the cost have a good reflection on the amount of profit forecasted?
£47 for a system that will make you 800 points in 2 years.. GET REAL…
9)
Does the product come with a money back guarantee? Yes it does and because its click bank this gets its highest score 8/10.
10)
Up sells, If you decide to buy and there is an immediate up sell which gives you an ad on to the system to make it even better or a totally new system altogether then be very wary and consider applying for a refund straight away. The only up sells I can condone is automation of the rules in a bespoke betting robot.
11)
Having checked through the system rules with Adrian Massey site I can confirm this can be fully back checked right back to 2004. After reading another well respected blog the profit and loss is absolutely terrible from 2004 to know but surprisingly something went right from 2006. +800 points profit but Its the long runs of losses that make it hard to stomach. Over a hundred times the losses stretched over 20 bets without a winner. You would definitely need a very big sized bank even to play at £20 win stakes. I’m talking thousands..
12)
Manual value for money?, The manual devotes only 3 pages to the actual system, very poor in my opinion..
That’s it guys make up your own mind but This failed my Due Diligence test and finds itself in the FAILED section. Any website that doesn’t score 80+ point from 120 goes straight into my failed section
Betting Supremacy = 25/120 – SCAM –
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Failed Due Dilligence
Please Feel welcome to comment guys…
I saw this guys video and I must admit I was tempted even looked at the price thought I might as well give it a go, I have done this in the past and got my fingers burnt I would buy a system and only afterwards would have the sense to check what you had to say.
Happy to say I have read your warning before buying this time see I’m learning
Thanks
Steve
Thanks for this. I did buy the system only because it’s Clickbank guaranteed. I zoomed through the tiresome how to bet padding to the meat, which is frankly laughable. My refund claim was put in within the hour and no, I won’t even be tempted to test it for a short while.
Hey guys a pleasure as always.
I think people will love the Free System Review Training Course im devising for March. It is basically a step by step process done in video and ebook, teaching people how to make the decision for themselves, because not always do folk like to search the internet or read a lot of stuff. Hopefully with me giving it away for free aswell with no strings at all. It will be welcomed…
Thanks for the report It seems that they are really pushing this one with all the hype.
Well Done James. At last there is somebody out there who is decent and honest – I mean you of course. If all these so called systems work then one would only need to buy a couple and if they perform that would be it. I have been punting for nearly 50 years and have never seen the marketplace like this.
As a matter of interest how can one believe the results these clowns are claiming? Surely with someone like Adrian Massey anyone can handpick results for the last 10 years from his site and claim that their system achieved these wonderful profits,
Anyhow keep up your good work. I for one and I am sure many many others appreciate your efforts.
Regards
Ernest
Hi James,
You and Matt are God sent to us novice punters. Honestly, I’m everyday learning new things from you and Matt. I thank myself for joining/subscribing to your blogs. As such, am eagerly waiting for that “Free System Review…” your are devising. As a novice punter, armed with such comprehesive review from you, I’ll definitely be saving some pecunia buying useless betting systems as I used to do. Thanks. mike.
Hello James,
I have read your comments with great interest. I have purchased so many betting scams
claiming to be the holy grail. I dont even follow my own common sense approach which is,
if its so good ,so fantastic, the one and only way to clean up then why would anyone want to make people aware of it? Despite this i still purchase between 3 to six systems a year.
only through clickbank which allows me to claim my refund which I usually have to.
Your feedback is most appreciated.Thanks again.
Hi James
I was tempted by the sales pitch, but a little concerned with the testmonials which seemed to show a bunch of actors being photgraphed to look happy!
Basically, if it looks too good to be true, it is!
I am with you James. SCAM!!!
Philip
Hi Philip yeh rule 5 mate if you read above… The testimonials are a shambles…
Thanks for all your comments above. Its nice to know this work does not go without being needed. Thanks again
For me all the work you put into finding all the scammers is platinum. I just don’t have a clue what to look for so a major thanks. Has anyone noticed how the scammers have changed tack??. Now they say they are “fed up” of the “gurus” keeping their secrets so they are breaking the code of silence blah blah blah. total B=====ks IMO. Why do folks fall for all this claptrap all the time??. By the way IF there were ever any “loopholes” in Betfair they would certainly slam it shut in micro seconds.
IF in ANY doubt leave it out.
I would never ever purchase a system from the internet even if God himself were the seller:
We dont need any laid down rules or guide lines to see us safely through the scammers minefields, what we do need though is plain common sense:
Put yourself in the place of a system seller and ask yourself this: “Would you sell a holy grail system if you had one in your possession, you would be mad to do so:
A system that actually works is a ticket to paradise and no-one in their right mind would sell it at any price:
If I had such a system I would have at least six Rockweilers and six Pit Bulls guarding it: Think about it:
ok let’s cut to the chase if you had devised a system that made you £100.00 per day would you sell it for £30-£40 ? see what i’m getting at
I respect your comments William but disagree with your views about wether guidelines are needed and also about using canines to protect my secret… I receive nigh on 50 emails a week from blog readers who want this sort of thing so they can be more savvy.
And in response to wether i would sell a system, I have done it in the past, the main reason is I simply dont have the time to run my idea myself and i know it works, because I have people testing them night and day.If i can make some money from my idea then thats what i will do. But then there is the sh*t bags online that sell crap that is made up and reverse engineered. I would not advise people to simply not buy anything, this is what my site is here for to pass on the TRUTHS about everything released online regardless of who is promoting them. And to cut speculation my site website currently runs at a small loss… So Sir please dont paint all marketers with the same tarnished brush.
Your opinion though is duly respected.
cheers
James
Hi John that all depends what your stakes are if your stakes were £100 a lay then it might be worth selling. If you were playing to £2 stakes then yeh i agree It would probably remain a secret.
One thing i have noticed in recent months is negativity in the niche is getting very popular. It is all caused by the new system every week marketers. It is absolutely taring this industry apart and they have no care for YOU or anyone else involved as long as they can carry on picking up there ever decreasing clickbank checks every 14 days…
Theres only so much we can do. And it is demoralising when we all get painted with the same coloured paint and same brush…
I hope James won’t mind me chipping in here as a potential system seller!
I “discovered” a laying system a few months ago which proved to be successful until January when it collapsed. James had kindly let me trial the system on this blog but eventually I withdrew the trial as the losses were piling up.
Since then of course, the system has got back into profit – maybe just the “curse of the live trial”! However, I may decide not to sell the system at all as a survey amongst punters on what they consider a reasonable price was just ludicrous. People expecting me to provide a system that they want to generate at least 100 points per year for around 15 quid!! Think about it. Why would I sell you a way of making 500 pounds or more per year for a one off 15 quid??
I might offer a subscription service but only after I have 12 months proven records to back up my claims, whatever they may be after a year.
The problem with selling systems is the unconditional money back guarantee. I could sell you a very profitable system where the buyer simply claims an unwarranted refund after a few days and I have earned zilch for my efforts.
Certainly there is a lot of rubbish on the market, a sign of our recessionary times and desperate bettors. But equally there are some very good systems out there although the best system, of course, is the one YOU develop yourself….
Cheers
Jon
Hi Folks
Some interesting comments by all concerned perhaps there is not much difference between some of the marketers and some of the punters they all want to make a quick and easy money. As for the remainder of us we know there is no such thing as a quick buck that profits can be made but its steadily over a period of time, its a patient process. Of course that is what is wrong with the world everything has to be instant, right now, but we are only kidding ourselves and as for instant wealth the odds of that happening are millions to one (Buy a lottery ticket).
Know i deviate from the path do we need guys like James, Matt, Sam, Jon and co the answer is “hell yeah” why because there are a vast amount of systems and services out there even if you eliminate many through commonsense you are still left with alot. Say you brought systems from one of the good guys, eventually by the law of the averages one of them maybe a failure would it not be better to know in advance rather than waste your money and going through the hassle of trying to get you money back from clickbank. You can only get your money back so many times from Clickbank before they ban you. There is new companies, new names appearing all the time some could be genuine or yet another alias from the rogues out there you need someone who can find out and inform you.
Some of you may remark, well you would say that you are a reviewer for James, true i am but if i did not believe in this site i would not bother period. I actually wrote for two other sites before James there test period was only for two weeks, i passed a couple because they made a profit over that amount time but i was not really happy because 2 weeks is no where near longer enough to do a test. The final straw was when i sent a review which failed but it was never posted they actually had sent out the system to different reviewers at various times and eventually posted one only when the actual system had made a profit and was approved. In fact these two sites approve most of the systems and services reviewed of course its down to one thing money and to hell with there bloggers, readers etc. These are the sites we need to get shot of they are just as bad as the bogus system sellers and in some case the two are connected. Now look at this site 16 services/systems failed and only 5 passed big difference is it not.
Now onto Jon i feel sorry for you mate i think i would be hacked off with the survey, by the way i completed it and i certainly did not quote 15 pounds. Of course as regards selling systems the dilemma here is because of the all the garbage out there punters will not buy anything without a guarantee, but on the flip side there are rogue punters who will keep the system and ask for there moneyback. There are genuine system authors and services out there, although few and far between who probably feel insulted that they are offering something good and do not believe they have to offer such guarantees. There could be two ways round it the first would be to clearly have it written in the guarantee that if the system did not make X amount amount of points or made a profit which ever you prefer within say 56 days(8 weeks) they could claim there moneyback, if the punter cannot prove he made a loss to Clickbank then no refund. The second would be to offer a subscription service for 8 weeks and say you wanted to charge 39 pounds for your system, charge them 19.50 pounds every 4 weeks, they could cancel anytime within this period and get there moneyback but would not receive the system until the end of the 8 weeks subscription. Of course in the case of number 2 you could say that the author might not send the system at the end of the period but then that would be failure to deliver and subscriptions would be returned. I am sure that these two approaches could be adapted somehow as they protect the customer/punter and the author/ seller. Although not perfect at least it would be the middle ground a compromise between favouring one side or another, if the system author/ service believed in there methods they would have no worries in demonstrating its worth and have assurance that his system would not be stolen. For the punter you still have the security of a guarantee if the system/service blows out.
As for the curse of the trials there is no such thing in a way its self inflicted, simple when system authors/ services either want to get there products reviewed or to sell them they are usually on a hot streak, you know on a long winning run, had several consecutive profitable months well we all know that no system or service can win all the time there has to be some losers and guess when it is going to happen?. What systems or services have i purchased in the last 12 months answer 5 how many refunds did i request just 1 and got it despite the authors worst(best) efforts to stop it.
Best Regards
David
Have you ever thought of introducing a system invention page:
Allow your readers to invent and send in their own ideas and thoughts on systems: I honestly believe that some of them will have far smarter minds than some of those so called experts who push out trash week in and week out:
It will allow us to pick through them and use some of that wisdom with our own ideas, and—-who knows!!! we may come up with a real winner:
There should be one stipulation however, and that is that any useable and successful system gleaned from your pages must be shared with the rest of your readers:
Its just a thought, but everything starts from a thought:
Regards
Gordon Mills
Hi
Great site but hard to pin down your top ten reliable systems can you list them clearly on your home page
Hi Seamus I have added that section at the top on the right. But unfortunately there isnt 10 in there and I doubt there will be 10 in there for months to come…